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19th-Dec-2005 07:46 pm
Walking down Market St. this afternoon, I passed by the darkened facade of the old Detour bar (the place I used to call The Sure Thing). I still lament the passing of that place - it lost its charm years before it closed down and was sold. It was so fun and dirty in a not-quite-too-much way, full of hot guys who probably didn't spend 45 minutes trying on outfits before they went out, and it had the best fucking music in town.

Anyway, walking past I saw some legal notices posted in the window. One was for a liquor license for the new owner, Greg Bronstein, who took the place over from Les Natali after Natali's lease expired in October (background). The notice included the new name for the establishment. It will henceforth be known as the Bare Bone Bar.


Why doesn't he just call it the Raw Penis Bar, or the Unprotected Sex Bar, or the Get Infected Bar? I fully understand that some people choose to have unprotected sex for whatever reasons, and there's nothing I can do or say that will stop that. That doesn't mean it's ok to promote unsafe sex. We're still in the depths of the HIV crisis, and the number of infections each year is still rising. Naming a bar in a way that plays off of people's desire to get drunk and fuck unsafely is just stupid. It's like naming a redneck bar Fagbasher's. We wouldn't put up with that kind of insulting attack on our community. Will we have to put up with Greg Bronstein's stupidity?

Is there something I'm not getting here?
20th-Dec-2005 04:52 am (UTC)
hmmm that sounds sort of retro in a way. a dude was just telling me here in LA that 10 years ago the big place to go was a place called CLUB FUCK.
20th-Dec-2005 05:15 am (UTC)
Club Fuck sounds like a fun place. I have nothing against good, clean, nasty, dirty fun. It's the stupid capitalizing on unsafe sex thing that I don't like. And you know everyone is going to be calling it BareBackBar before it even opens.
20th-Dec-2005 05:59 am (UTC)
Have you seen this shit???


If I ever needed a reason to hate myself for being gay, I'd probably start there.
20th-Dec-2005 06:09 am (UTC)
That is pretty fucked up. But why would this be a reason to hate yourself for being gay? Guilt by association? Or in the case of some of those letters, dissociation.
20th-Dec-2005 09:03 am (UTC)
I *just* read about that here.

Thing is, someone said that it's not done to prevent HIV but for effect. Apparently it intensifies the effects of E???

I dunno. Not that I'm against hedonistic fun, but this just seems like a profoundly stupid idea regardless of motive.
20th-Dec-2005 07:22 pm (UTC)
That's interesting.

I'm not a pharmacologist, but tenofovir's action is fairly limited to knocking out the reverse transcriptase in viruses, and really wouldn't have any immediate systematic effect to the body. If it IS being touted as increasing E's effects, I would have to suspect that's just a marketing ploy - when you're a bunch of drugs, I could probably give you aspirin and tell you it gives you a better trip and you would probably believe me. Kind of a reverse placebo effect... except in this case a placebo would be MUCH more preferable.

Of course, given that the most common side effects for tenofovir are "nausea, diarrhea, vomitting, and flatulence"... well, maybe some folks are into that stuff and uh... doing it on E. (?!)
22nd-Dec-2005 03:34 am (UTC) - Was that an application for a liquor license?
If the sign in the window was for an application for a liquor license, then I suggest we all get involved to insure that the application is denied until a more responsible name / marketing approach is developed.
22nd-Dec-2005 04:03 pm (UTC) - Re: Was that an application for a liquor license?
Yes, it's a liquor license application.

What are you thinking for getting involved? I can think of a couple actions to take:
1) letter to the B.A.R.
2) contact the Dept of Alcoholic Beverage Control
3) call the office of our city supervisor Bevan Dufty. Since Bevan and Greg are buddies, this might not be very effective
22nd-Dec-2005 08:23 pm (UTC) - Re: Was that an application for a liquor license?
is there to be some administrative hearing date accepting comments from the public? I don't live in the city so can't just walk by the posting in the window... if anybody knows, let me know and maybe we can form some type of organized group to persuade the owners into a more appropriate name.
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